Comments on: Common Anti-Vaccination Myths and Misconceptions

By: admin

admin — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:19:02 +0000

Thanks for responding to that comment. I think it just was forgotten! I was able to incorporate the quote into your first comment so I deleted the other two.

By: Pensive

Pensive — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:47:55 +0000

@Trock71 – I realize I am just a few years behind this comment thread:), but I am confused at the link you gave:

Public Health Agency of Canada:
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/q_a_thimerosal-eng.php.

You state in your comment above:

’4. There is thimerosal (mercury) in the MMR: (False) Thimerosal, an ethylmercury compound, is not and never has been an ingredient in the MMR.’

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/q_a_thimerosal-eng.php

Who am I supposed to believe, you or my government? I don’t trust them either. This must be a pharmablog.” trock71 on Tue, 10th Feb 2009 1:19 pm

I searched through the documents listed on the page you linked. The direct link to the page you gave does talk about thimerosal, but no where on the page does it even mention MMR. Perhaps you can correct me if I have missed it.?

I did some more digging on your link, thinking perhaps that it was buried in one of the other documents. There are three other documents linked on the page you posted:

1) First link is titled “NACI Statement on Thimerosal – July 2007″ in which it lists MMRII. The page provides a table on which vaccines contain thimerosal in “Preservative amounts,” which contain “trace amounts” and which contain “NONE” The MMRII is listed below the category of “NONE.”
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/publicat/ccdr-rmtc/07vol33/acs-06/index-eng.php

2) the second link off of the Public Health Agency of Canadian site you referenced on Thimerosal is entitled “Autism,” states nothing about either MMR or Thimerosal. It does have a list of links to other sites, but the Public Health Agency of Canadian page entitled “Autism” has no mention of thimerosal or MMR.

3) The third link is entitled “EXPOSURE TO THIMEROSAL IN VACCINES USED IN CANADIAN INFANT IMMUNIZATION PROGRAMS, WITH RESPECT TO RISK OF NEURODEVELOPMENTAL DISORDERS” A quick [control F] search leads me to this quoted text (which by the way is the only mention of MMR:

“Other routine childhood vaccines used in Canada, such as those for measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) and PENTACELTM (for diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis, H. influenzae type b, and inactivated polio) ***do not*** contain thimerosal preservative(11)” [Asterisks mine]

The direct link to this document can be found at the bottom of the page you linked and also here: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/webarchives/20071222030409/http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/publicat/ccdr-rmtc/02vol28/dr2809ea.html

So, perhaps you can understand my confusion at your link. Perhaps you accidentally posted the wrong link or misunderstood your own information? I haven’t been able to find the information you suggested, which leads me to deduce that you were mistaken either in your understanding or in the link you posted. Perhaps this seems nit picky, but I believe it is an important exercise for the sake of other readers.

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By: admin

admin — Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:44:15 +0000

Yes, it is. However, that doesn’t guarantee that using it in vaccines won’t trigger problems. Here is a presentation at an FDA meeting which raises concerns about adjuvants http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/NewsEvents/WorkshopsMeetingsConferences/UCM095732.pdf and another http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/NewsEvents/WorkshopsMeetingsConferences/UCM095746.pdf

Finally, here is the page where you can look at the actual discussions from the meetings http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/NewsEvents/WorkshopsMeetingsConferences/ucm095698.htm

I think the best you can say is that safety hasn’t been demonstrated.

By: maureeen

maureeen — Mon, 06 Jun 2011 06:16:48 +0000

Is squalene a natural material to be found in the human body as formaldehyde is?

By: Autism & Oughtisms

Autism & Oughtisms — Sun, 26 Dec 2010 06:25:10 +0000

Really fantastic site, and a very useful post. You manage to present important information in a very accessible way. I have learnt more from reading through your blog – specifically about the truths and myths of autism which is of personal relevance to my life – than I have in years of trawling through the internet. Thank you!

By: KWombles

KWombles — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:57:21 +0000

I posted a link to this article on Kim Stagliano’s latest Huffington Post piece where once again crazy nonsense like the whole antifreeze gambit is being trotted out.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 30 May 2010 10:25:10 +0000

Thanks for your info. I’ve been nosying around a few vax forums in my research endeavours and it’s hard to weed out the wheat from the chaff a lot of the time there is so much playground politicking clouding the waters for concerned parents like meself who just want to get to the bottom of things.

I get it is a complex area fraught with agenda, but with valid arguments on both sides. Nice to stumble across info/pages like this…cheers

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By: Helen Tucker

Helen Tucker — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:31:21 +0000

Mistaking Phenoxyethanol for antifreeze is an understandable mistake, since its common name is “ethylene glycol monophenyl ether.” Parents see “ethylene glycol…” and think, “Wow, is there antifreeze in the vaccine?” Of course, they don’t really care about the freezing point of the substance. What they really mean is, “Wow, is there something as toxic as antifreeze in the vaccine?”

The answer is yes. Phenoxyethanol has a lower oral LD50 for rats than ethylene glycol. So the bottom line is, it doesn’t matter that phenoxyethanol has different chemical properties than ethylene glycol and cannot be used to keep our car fluids from freezing. The only chemical property that matters is that it has similar, if not higher, toxicity levels as ethylene glycol.